Comments on: The Fish Story http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/ Web Development and Design, and Anything That Matters Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:54:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: hartford http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-15 Sat, 27 May 2006 00:49:21 +0000 http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-15 I love this site. Good work... I love this site. Good work…

]]> by: Herryanto Siatono http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-14 Fri, 26 May 2006 01:14:38 +0000 http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-14 Well said Ryan. Well said Ryan.

]]> by: Ryan Ng http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-7 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:20:26 +0000 http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-7 Thanks man. I came up with the story, after reading and thinking through your blog. Actually, I think Kiasu spirit is kind of inborn in us. Kiasu has a bad connotation to it but I think it is linked to human's instinct to survive and improve. Afterall, it is human to want more and it is that which led to the advancements we have today. I think the difference is in the effects of wanting more. When you harm others or shortchange others in the process, then its bad. If you want more and help more in the process, then it is good :-) Thanks man. I came up with the story, after reading and thinking through your blog.
Actually, I think Kiasu spirit is kind of inborn in us. Kiasu has a bad connotation to it but I think it is linked to human’s instinct to survive and improve.
Afterall, it is human to want more and it is that which led to the advancements we have today.
I think the difference is in the effects of wanting more. When you harm others or shortchange others in the process, then its bad. If you want more and help more in the process, then it is good :-)

]]> by: Herryanto Siatono http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-5 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:27:37 +0000 http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-5 Thx Ryan, I really like your Herrings story, another very good way to put it across. The Kiasu spirit has possed us from young. We'll have to work hard to get it exorcised. And whether it should be "FISH" or "Fresh Fish", I think I leave it to the shop owner to decide. :) Thx Ryan, I really like your Herrings story, another very good way to put it across. The Kiasu spirit has possed us from young. We’ll have to work hard to get it exorcised.

And whether it should be “FISH” or “Fresh Fish”, I think I leave it to the shop owner to decide. :)

]]> by: Ryan Ng http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-4 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:59:02 +0000 http://www.pluitsolutions.com/2006/04/20/the-fish-story/#comment-4 Interesting story, though the extras sometimes does help convey a certain message or feeling. In the fish story for example, I think "Fresh Fish" would be the best. Fresh as a word conjueres up the image FRESH which in my opinion definitely helps to sell. There was this experience that embeds deeply in me on how marketing is so powerful. I was in a HK cafeteria and a big ad on a milk tea translated from Chinese (Xiang Nong Nai Cha) reads something like "Strong and Fragrant Milk Tea". Well, its kind of lost in the translation but it sure made me buy the tea in the end though I had no intention in the first place. Another classic is "Ice Cold Coke". It is from a dispenser, so of course it is cold (and no ice ironically). On a hot day where you are thirsty, how does that sound against "Coke"? In software development, I share your experience from the user point of view. So it is good that you step back and ask the user "Is it required?" However, all these happens for a reason. They have a boss to report to. Even if they are boss, they always have someone else to answer to. Since we are on fish, I will use the analogy of trying to catch some fish. Say I want to catch a group of Herrings as original intention. So I surveyed the ocean and shoals, then design a net (software) to catch the Herrings. Now, I am catching Herrings maybe my wife asked me to (boss). As I design the net, I noticed that Herrings swing closely with the Tunas. So maybe if I make my net bigger, I can net some Tunas which my wife might like. Then I realize that Herrings feast on prawns which swims below them. So maybe if I make my net able to sink deeper faster, then I can catch some prawns too, which maybe I can sell to my neighbours. So the list goes on.... I guess this is kind of Kiasu mentality to use Singapore Lingo which I think is present in many (not just Singaporeans). They are also afraid that they missed out something. However, it is always good to step back and say - I only want to catch Herrings today. Save the rest for some other time. Damn, I do not like to write diaries so I cannot believe that I actually wrote such a long story....hmmm.. Interesting story, though the extras sometimes does help convey a certain message or feeling. In the fish story for example, I think “Fresh Fish” would be the best. Fresh as a word conjueres up the image FRESH which in my opinion definitely helps to sell.

There was this experience that embeds deeply in me on how marketing is so powerful. I was in a HK cafeteria and a big ad on a milk tea translated from Chinese (Xiang Nong Nai Cha) reads something like “Strong and Fragrant Milk Tea”. Well, its kind of lost in the translation but it sure made me buy the tea in the end though I had no intention in the first place.

Another classic is “Ice Cold Coke”. It is from a dispenser, so of course it is cold (and no ice ironically). On a hot day where you are thirsty, how does that sound against “Coke”?

In software development, I share your experience from the user point of view. So it is good that you step back and ask the user “Is it required?”

However, all these happens for a reason. They have a boss to report to. Even if they are boss, they always have someone else to answer to. Since we are on fish, I will use the analogy of trying to catch some fish.

Say I want to catch a group of Herrings as original intention. So I surveyed the ocean and shoals, then design a net (software) to catch the Herrings. Now, I am catching Herrings maybe my wife asked me to (boss). As I design the net, I noticed that Herrings swing closely with the Tunas. So maybe if I make my net bigger, I can net some Tunas which my wife might like. Then I realize that Herrings feast on prawns which swims below them. So maybe if I make my net able to sink deeper faster, then I can catch some prawns too, which maybe I can sell to my neighbours. So the list goes on….

I guess this is kind of Kiasu mentality to use Singapore Lingo which I think is present in many (not just Singaporeans). They are also afraid that they missed out something.

However, it is always good to step back and say - I only want to catch Herrings today. Save the rest for some other time.

Damn, I do not like to write diaries so I cannot believe that I actually wrote such a long story….hmmm..

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